olympic track star appeared in court facing premeditated murder in the death of his girlfriend model reeva steenkamp. we talked here which was in the lance armstrong occurrence. i'm not trying to say that the two crimes are equal, but to the question of heroes in modern american society or modern global society, i mean, if you are growing up in this world and you are looking at what's happening, how do you believe anybody these days? >> maybe we hold the wrong people too high. this story here is so tragic. i don't know the details, but i hope that they get to the bottom of it, and i hope that whoever has done this is punished to the fullest extent. >> andrew, he is saying that there was a burglar in the house. it seems like a fairly thin -- >> he i want to say. you can talk to him about heroes. >> it sounds crazy. he is taking the gun from under the bed, and he claims the girlfriend is in the bed. it doesn't seem -- doesn't add up. >> he has not been found guilty. >> on the issue of heroes, i just -- my feeling is that we look up to lots of people over time, but in this age when we know so